First Call for votes - unmoderated group comp.text.xml

From Tue Jun 23 05:16:25 1998
Date:       Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:06:59 -0400 (EDT)
From:       Neil Crellin <>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.etext,
Subject:    CFV: comp.text.xml
Reply-To:   Neil Crellin <>

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                   unmoderated group comp.text.xml

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.text.xml		The Extensible Markup Language (XML).

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 14 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: James Tauber <>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <>

RATIONALE: comp.text.xml

XML is a new language, and it appears that it will be extremely

Over the past few months, traffic on the XML-DEV and XML-L
mailing lists has grown rapidly.  With the release of the W3C
Recommendation for XML 1.0, developer interest is growing rapidly
and an increasing amount of software is being released.  A
newsgroup would make it much easier for a wider audience
to participate in and benefit from these discussions.

While it may appear at first that comp.text.sgml is appropriate,
there will be those interested in XML who do not care about the
arcana of SGML, and there will be those interested in SGML who
do not care to see many basic questions about XML.

CHARTER: comp.text.xml

Comp.text.xml shall be an unmoderated newsgroup for the general
discussion of the Extensible Markup Language (XML) and its

This includes, but is not limited to the specifications and
syntax, document creation and editing, interchange, software,
processing and database integration. This applies not only to
XML itself but also the Extensible Linking Language (XLL), the
Extensible Style Language (XSL), Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) as
applied to XML documents, and to document types and applications
of XML.

Policy on Advertising

We encourage discussion of the merits and shortcomings of
commercial products. A certain amount of advertising (both
objective and advocative) is to be expected and this is to be
encouraged as long as the products and services relate directly
to XML and the announcements are brief. Company representatives
are expected to participate in discussions of their product that
they themselves did not initiate.

Please refer to the widely available Internet literature on the
subject of common net abuses (indiscriminate newsgroup spamming,
multiple advertisement posting, and chain letters being among the
most frequent).



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| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.text.xml
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 Your Vote   Newsgroup
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[         ]  comp.text.xml

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