RESULT: comp.text.xml passes 365:22

From Tue Jul 14 19:26:04 1998
Date:     Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:14:22 -0400 (EDT)
From:     Neil Crellin <>
Subject:  RESULT: comp.text.xml passes 365:22

            unmoderated group comp.text.xml passes 365:22

There were 365 YES votes and 22 NO votes, for a total of 387 valid
votes.  There were 7 abstentions and 5 invalid ballots.

For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly

Newsgroups line:
comp.text.xml		The Extensible Markup Language (XML).

The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 14 Jul 1998.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: James Tauber <>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <>

RATIONALE: comp.text.xml

XML is a new language, and it appears that it will be extremely

Over the past few months, traffic on the XML-DEV and XML-L
mailing lists has grown rapidly.  With the release of the W3C
Recommendation for XML 1.0, developer interest is growing rapidly
and an increasing amount of software is being released.  A
newsgroup would make it much easier for a wider audience
to participate in and benefit from these discussions.

While it may appear at first that comp.text.sgml is appropriate,
there will be those interested in XML who do not care about the
arcana of SGML, and there will be those interested in SGML who
do not care to see many basic questions about XML.

CHARTER: comp.text.xml

Comp.text.xml shall be an unmoderated newsgroup for the general
discussion of the Extensible Markup Language (XML) and its

This includes, but is not limited to the specifications and
syntax, document creation and editing, interchange, software,
processing and database integration. This applies not only to
XML itself but also the Extensible Linking Language (XLL), the
Extensible Style Language (XSL), Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) as
applied to XML documents, and to document types and applications
of XML.

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comp.text.xml Final Voter list

Voted YES
hockemey [at]                          Cord Hockemeyer
jmodre [at]                                    Juergen Modre
jawe [at]                                                  Jan Wessely
neilr [at]                                             Neil Robinson
mrc [at]                                            Marcus Carr
ricko [at]                                        Rick Jelliffe
Ted.Harper [at]                                 Ted Harper
Smith.Adrian.A [at]                               Adrian Mark Smith
Brooke.Smith [at]                    Brooke Benjamin Smith
Kevin [at]                                      Kevin Azzopardi
tim_josling [at]                               Tim Josling
bmhughes [at]                                      Baden Hughes
John.Lamp [at]                                         John Lamp
msf [at]                                        Michael Fuller
house [at]                                                Ron House
ajc [at]                                     Andrew Cosgriff
Geert.Bormans [at]                           Geert Bormans
hca [at]                                              Hans C. Arents
jdeseyne [at]                                        Jacques Deseyne
chriseb [at]                                          Chris Ebenezer
gauthier.gilles [at]                                   Gilles Gauthier
relander [at]                         Richard Lander
kshapiro [at]                                       Kivi Shapiro
Benedikt.Heinen [at]                         Benedikt Heinen
bhilton [at]                                              Brand Hilton
bmv [at]                              </FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
lawrence [at]                                       Scott Lawrence
amiamc [at]                                    Mitch C. Amiano
Shelton.Turner [at]                            Shelton Turner
jbritt [at]                                            James Britt
Sanchm [at]                                              Mario Sanchez
sforsell [at]                                            Scott Forsell
orisko [at]                                               Ondrej Risko
Avi [at]                                              Avi Kivity
carey [at]                                        Carey Lambert
jaed [at]                                         Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
kimdv [at]                                               Kim DeVaughn
jpetry [at]                                            James Petry
jphipps [at]                                            Jon Phipps
seidel [at]                                David & Kathleen Seidel
alain [at]                                           Alain DESEINE
ftung [at]
gkholman [at]                                     G. Ken Holman
cwarsaw [at]                                              Craig Warsaw
carl [at]                                                  Carl Hage
glarose [at]                                       Gord Larose
bwb [at]                                           Benson, Brent
mark [at]                                              Mark Baker
hsmith23 [at]                                             Howard Smith
fche [at]                                          Frank Ch. Eigler
torin [at]                                             Darren Stalder
DasBuro.Com!mfx [at] DasBuro.Com                              Markus Freericks
booda [at]                                        Martin H. Booda
sven.petzoldt [at]                                     Sven Petzoldt
alastair [at]                                       Alastair Blakey
Damian.Rodriguez [at]                             Damian Rodriguez
jnelson [at]                       Jeffrey James Nelson
chris.lada [at]                                      Chris Lada
roger [at]                                           Roger M. Opperman
TYonkman [at]                                         Tom Yonkman
david [at]                                 David G. Durand
roland.eriksson [at]                         Jan Roland Eriksson
eddie.sheffield [at]                            Eddie Sheffield
per-ake.ling [at]                                    Per-Åke Ling
lisabos [at]                                             Lisa W. Bos
david [at]                                             David Farrar
Michael_Durbin [at]                        Michael Patrick Durbin
jmochel [at]                                      Jim Jackl-Mochel
dparrott [at]                                       Dennis M. Parrott
kpascoe [at]                                             Kathy Pascoe
jan [at]                                                Jan Cuyckens
dean [at]                                             Dean S Jones
Jim.Ancona [at]                                            Jim Ancona
james.follan [at]                                      James E Follan
chris.yearsley [at]                                    Chris Yearsley
jamaro [at]                            
michael [at]                                      Michael Sanborn
AshleyB [at]                                        Ashley Yakeley
bjv [at]                                            B.J. Herbison
jamaro [at]                                      Josue Emmanuel Amaro
kensall [at]                                                 Ken Sall
gail [at]                                             Gail Gurman
wfs [at]                                             William Swain
sbutler [at]                                          Sylvan Butler
self [at]                                           Faried Nawaz
steve.hunter [at]                         Steve Hunter
Denis_Haskin [at]
wheeleb [at]                                          Bruce Wheeler
simcha [at] VNET.IBM.COM                                         Simcha Gralla
cbd [at]                                           Carl Binding
Gershon_Joseph [at]                               Gershon Joseph
tenger [at]                                         Terrence Enger
David_Drexler [at]                                        Dave Drexler
denis [at]                                             Denis Hennessy
nigel [at]                                              Nigel Barrett
dougmw [at]                                     Douglas Metcalfe-White
gregfra [at]                                           Greg Franklin
mcoren [at]                                        Mark L. Coren
wcruppel [at]                                         Bill Ruppel
zach [at]                                         Zach Baker
ndallen [at]                                          Nigel Allen
smith [at]                                            Chris Smith
eliot [at]                                          W. Eliot Kimber
cloos [at]                                     James H. Cloos, Jr.
ems [at]                                              Erik Seaberg
jtauber [at]                                          James Tauber
rlowenthal [at]                                      Rich Lowenthal
steve.howard [at]                                    Steve Howard
rick [at]                                               Rick Brannan
Peter_Masters [at]                          Peter Masters
Scott_Boag/CAM/Lotus [at]                                 Scott Boag
lists [at]                                        Scott Vanderbilt
barry [at]                                       Barry MacKichan
david [at]                                       David Megginson
tadmc [at]                                          Tad McClellan
derekdb [at]                                   Derek Denny-Brown
spinochet [at]                                   Susan Pinochet
Lee_T_Wilkirson [at]                          Lee T. Wilkirson
DuCharmR [at]                                          Bob DuCharme
r24743 [at]                                    Dan L. Pattyn
SimonStL [at]                                 Simon St.Laurent
btusdin [at]                                  B. Tommie Usdin
bmartell [at]                                      Brett Martell
ddwyer [at]                                              Daaron Dwyer
seth_ladd [at]                                     Seth Ladd
tjbrady [at]                                            Tom Brady
dkuhlman [at]                                      G. David Kuhlman
elaine [at]                                       Elaine M. Brennan
genepool [at]                                           Jim Michael
rbenn [at]                                         Randy Bennett
fmanola [at]                                             Frank Manola
jeremy [at]                                       Jeremy H. Griffith
doug.clinton [at]                              Douglas Clinton
sjain [at]                         Sandeep Jain</FONT><BR>&nbsp;
SMUENCH [at]                                        Steve Muench
crism [at]                                    Christopher R. Maden
jsaylor [at]                                            John Saylor
sal [at]                                            salvatore denaro
MarkS [at]                                           Mark Schnitzer
seanwebb [at]                                          Sean Webb
bw [at]                                               Bob Wilkinson
clau [at]                                             Carmel Lau
mjd-vote-xml [at]                                Mark-Jason Dominus
ackme [at]                                             Jim Gallagher
mra [at]                                                 Mark Atwood
ABREAUJ [at] POLAROID.COM                                          John Abreau
JLewis [at]                                          John D. Lewis
francis [at]                                               francis
frank.richards [at]                    Frank Richards
tony.stewart [at]                                      Tony Stewart
GNorth [at]                                       Gloria North
oisin [at]                                           Oisin McGuinness
avirr [at]                                       Avi Rappoport
cmunro [at]                                          Charlie Munro
wcox [at]                                          BILL COX
heaney [at]                                Steven Heaney
huntley [at]                                     Huntley Eshenroder
Kris.Keener [at]                                Kris W. Keener
dak [at]                                            David 'Dak' Keldsen
burton.lee [at]                                          Burton Lee
stamper [at]                                         Chris Stamper
ciarlone [at]                                    Leonor Ciarlone
barry [at]                                      Barry Schaeffer
gbs [at]                                         George Smith
Jon.Bosak [at] eng.Sun.COM                                           Jon Bosak
db [at] Eng.Sun.COM                                             David Brownell
altheim [at] mehitabel.eng.Sun.COM                              Murray Altheim
Trevor.Jenkins [at]                              Trevor Jenkins
whunt [at]                                      Wil Hunt
north [at] Synopsys.COM                                            Simon North
arielle [at]                                    Stephanie da Silva
cae [at]                                   Carlos A Elizondo
benoit.barre [at]                                      Benoît BARRE
Jeremy.Verity [at]                                  Jeremy Verity
mundie [at]                                          David Mundie
mariusz [at]                                       Mariusz Podsiadlo
danny [at]                                         Danny Wahlquist
Michael.Lauer [at]                                    Michael Lauer
slger [at]                                             Susan Gerhart
casiello [at]                                      Brian Casiello
ken [at]                                              Ken Elwert
rajesh_n1 [at]                                           Rajesh N
dgulbran [at]                                      David Gulbransen
gsez020 [at]                                Pete Forman
JLemire [at]                                          John Lemire
jlapp [at]                                             Joe Lapp
barry [at]                                       Barry Campbell
szpak [at]                                            Mark Szpakowski
xanthian [at]                                         Kent Paul Dolan
Lloyd.Seamans [at]                              Lloyd H. Seamans
DHable [at]                                            Dan Hable
sns [at]                                            Steven Noels
parsons [at]                                     Jonathan Parsons
Hoenicka [at]                              Markus Hoenicka
macherius [at]                                 Ingo Macherius
Ekkehard.Uthke [at]                                      Ekkehard Uthke
c.schabacker [at]                               Carsten Schabacker
m.sckopke [at]                                      Martin Sckopke
m.wachowitz [at]                                    Marc Wachowitz
schwarze [at]                                           Jochen Schwarze
michael.urban [at]                            Michael Urban
list-votes [at]                             Martin Schr"oder
g.wulfes [at]                                     Georg Wulfes
Harald.Joerg [at]                                      Harald Joerg
nwoh [at]                                       Nigel Hutchison [at]                                         Thomas Berger
Sebastian [at] TRIVIUM.DE
klaus.kreulich [at]                          Klaus Kreulich
H.Duerer [at] ZAIT.Uni-Bremen.DE                                  Holger Dürer
lannert [at]
cnwetzel [at]                      Christian Wetzel
Fotis.Jannidis [at]                         Fotis Jannidis
ht.ohlsen [at]                                    Hans-Henrik T. Ohlsen
tobez [at]                                            Anton Berezin
dsew [at]                                 David Sewell
jdavis [at] lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU                                   Jim Davis
jmcdonou [at]                            Jerome McDonough
grechaw [at]
John_Lavagnino [at]                                   John Lavagnino
jeliza+ [at]                         Jeliza Patterson
dsr [at]                                        Dan Riley
pdurusau [at]                                        Patrick Durusau
salber [at]                                        Daniel Salber
mpslon01 [at]                                    Michael Slone
pkasieck [at]                                   Philip T. Kasiecki
kuipers [at]                                  Gilbert Kuipers
lverhulst [at]                                     Leane Verhulst
donahue [at]                                      Adam M. Donahue
zsh [at]                                         Shenghuo ZHU
rogersba [at] Rose-Hulman.Edu                                  Brian A. Rogers
iburrell [at] leland.Stanford.EDU                                  Ian Burrell
goldste3 [at]                             Herschel P. Goldstein
jason [at]                                  Jason Christian
fensterm [at]                               Kurt Fenstermacher
ehood [at]                                         Earl Hood
jkcohen [at]                                         Jonathan K. Cohen
kamikaze [at]
llopis [at]                                   Noel Llopis
ser [at]                                      Sean Russell
jdruck [at]                                 Jon Drucker
priestdo [at]                              Greg E. Priest-Dorman
rufinus [at]                                        J Rufinus
1jasagar [at]                                   Jaime Sagarduy
barranquero [at]                        Juanma Barranquero
lat [at]                                                 Lassi A. Tuura
vili [at]                                          Ville Varjonen
basile.starynkevitch [at]                          Basile STARYNKEVITCH
fre3d [at]                                       Emilie Danna
didier [at]                                     Didier Bolf
benoit.germaneau [at]                  GERMANEAU Benoit SNPSI
besagni [at]                                        Dominique Besagni
Floriano.Conte [at]                                     Floriano Conte
Joel.Wilf [at]                                          Joel Wilf
mike [at]                                     Mihalis Tsoukalos
kata [at]                                   Katalin Rutkovszky
Rory.Quinn [at]                                          Rory Quinn
digitome [at]                                             Sean Mc Grath
eamon [at]                                               Eamon Hayes
david.abrahamson [at]                            David M. Abrahamson
pflynn [at]                                          Peter Flynn
ecampbell [at]                                           Eoin Campbell
sudarshan [at]                                    Sudarshan Purohit
jatin [at]                            JATIN SHUKLA
marj [at]                                                Mar Jonsson
mau [at]                                     Maurizio Codogno
jwt [at]                                               Jim Tittsler
numa [at]                            NUMATA Toshinori
jylee [at]                                              Lee, Jiyun
robert [at]                                            Robert Morrison
geoff20 [at]                                            Geoff Morris
cdarney [at]                                     Chuck Darney
jrj [at]                                    Joseph R. Justice
drclue [at]                                                Dr. Clue
ellis [at]                                                 Rick Ellis
marty44 [at]                                             Martin Boehme
d.maltby [at]                                         David Maltby
axxion [at]                                          Alexander Stigsen
novice [at]                                              W. A. Gerrard
ghewitt [at]                                             Gary M Hewitt
ford [at]                                            Paul Ford
cmcurtin [at]                                        Matt Curtin
stanton [at]                                      Stanton Teters
richard.obeirne [at]                              Richard O'BEIRNE
fcy [at] Mcs.Net                                                Fred Yankowski
jborden [at]                                  Jonathan  A. Borden
sgmlgeek [at]                                       Mary P McRae
ezy [at]                                             Asim Yosafi
alexdawson [at]                                         Alex Dawson
simpson [at]                                       John E. Simpson
aray [at]                                                     Arjun Ray
sherds [at]                                         A.I. Persofsky
rabin [at]                                                Paul Rabin
stephenp [at]                                        Stephen Perkins
alister [at]                                            A Bulman
af137 [at]                                                  Al Aab
ginigma [at]                                               c gold
mahto [at]                                         Robert N. Thomas
skquinn [at]                                             Shawn K. Quinn
michael [at]                           Michael Nieuwenhuizen
egonw [at]                                         Egon Willighagen
jdassen [at]                              J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
michiel.verhoef [at]                                   Michiel Verhoef
eikie [at]                                       Erik van Elsas
bjornts [at]                                        Bjorn Tore Sund
grove [at]                                          Geir Ove Grønmo
martin [at]                                        Martin Dransfield
kjetil.kjernsmo [at]                              Kjetil Kjernsmo
larsga [at]                                     Lars Marius Garshol
oyvind.eide [at]                                         Oyvind Eide
antony [at]                                         Antony Simmonds
DeanS [at] WAIRC.GOVT.NZ                                         Dean Stringer
sbandy [at]                                                  S. Bandy
fdrake [at]                                         Fred L. Drake, Jr.
mprakash [at]                                            Praki Prakash
roggenkamps [at]                                      Steve Roggenkamp
doyle [at]                                                  Mark Doyle
herisman [at]                                           Howard Erisman
cowan [at]                                           John Cowan
donkiely [at]                                           Don Kiely
nospam [at]                                             Jan Haar
vote [at]                                                 Tobias Erle
nat [at]                                       Nat Makarevitch
abby [at]                                            Abby Franquemont
fabien [at]                                       Fabien Girardin
Paul.V.Biron [at]                                          Paul V Biron
junga [at]                                                  Achim Jung
peewee [at]                                            Jason Wright
bkdelong [at]                                              B.K. DeLong
kclark [at]                                   Kendall Clark
hebisch [at]                                 Waldemar Hebisch
Johan.Dahl [at]                                          Johan Dahl
svante [at]                                           Svante Kleist
John.Gotze [at]                               John Gotze
SuanTK [at]                                          Suan Teck Kin
cvecwt [at]                                           Chan Weng Tat
janez.zupanic [at]                                        Janez @upani~
emt [at]                               Jana Chlebikova
hk [at]                                             Hakan Kalyoncu
richard [at]                                     Richard Tobin
norman [at]                                        Norman Gray
schwarze [at]                                   Eckhard Schwarzat
bmm [at]                                           Brian Matthews
D.J.Beckett [at]                                        Dave Beckett
fqp1 [at]                                    Francisco Queiros Pinto
m.mower [at]                                              Matt Mower
steve.parkinson [at]                             Steve Parkinson
kate.curtis [at]                              Katherine Curtis
nickle [at]                                            Nick Leaton
wrigley [at]                                       Ave Wrigley
john_singleton [at]                              John Singleton
Hammy [at]                                      Hamish Bell
marty [at]                                Martin McCarthy
js [at]                                       Johnathan Swan
richard [at]                                   Richard Light
alan.ralph [at]                                Alan Ralph
aidan [at]                                      Aidan Killian
Margaret [at]                              Margaret Aldis
murble [at]                                William Boughton
neal.champion [at]                                Neal Champion
M.H.Kay [at]                                         Michael Kay
nik [at]                                                 Nik Clayton
trevor [at]                                          Trevor Wood
ianw [at]                                        Ian Westbrook
R.Taylor [at]                                  Richard Taylor
akuchlin [at]                                  A.M. Kuchling

Voted NO
mib [at]                                          Mike Battersby
chet.ensign [at]                                        Chet Ensign
stainles [at]                                             Dwight Brown
guymacon [at]          (Guy Macon)
tomo [at]                                              Tom Otvos
jason [at]                                       Jason Steiner
cipher [at]                                              Cipher
Greg_Baber [at]                                   Gregory Baber
olav [at]                                        Olav Nieuwejaar
nwelch1 [at]                                     Welch Family
eric_albright [at]                                   Eric Albright
pan [at]                                                          Pan
daver [at]                                         David Reynolds
tbray [at]                                             Tim Bray
nolda [at]                              Andreas Nolda
naddy [at]                           Christian Weisgerber
rick [at]                                           Richard Miller
Emma.K.Antunes.1 [at]                       Emma Kolstad Antunes
pbern7 [at]                                       Paul Bernhardt
marquez [at]                                         Aaron Marquez
tobotras [at]                                        Boris Tobotras
Voting [at]                                            AST

cdt [at]                                         Chris Trumbore
luisrmcosta [at]                                 Lui's Ricardo Costa
chris [at]                                Christopher Robin Zimmerman
billy-ace.baker [at]                        Billy-Ace Baker
sean.duffy [at]                                  Sean Duffy
k-j-nore [at]                                       Karl-Johan Noren
peter [at]                                 Peter Murray-Rust

Invalid votes
Christophe.BURTIN [at]                             Burtin Kristov
    ! No vote statement in message
m.schneider [at]                             Dr. Michael Schneider
    ! Invalid ballot
jwv [at]                                                John Wilcock
    ! Undeliverable address
wish [at]                             Bill Hay
    ! Invalid address
phetland [at]                                             Jo Hetland
    ! No vote statement in message

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